1 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:30,020 Hello. 2 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Hi. 3 00:00:31,780 --> 00:00:32,359 I'm Dr. 4 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Riggs. 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,920 Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. 6 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:40,220 Before we get started, I'd just like to let you know we've got a couple of 7 00:00:40,220 --> 00:00:41,059 cameras here. 8 00:00:41,060 --> 00:00:43,100 Today we'll be recording. Just for my... 9 00:00:44,020 --> 00:00:46,740 records, personal records, so I can reflect later on our sessions. 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,100 Is that okay with the bookies? 11 00:00:48,700 --> 00:00:49,619 Yeah. Yeah. 12 00:00:49,620 --> 00:00:54,180 Excellent. So, um, please tell me a little bit about what brings you in 13 00:00:54,180 --> 00:00:55,180 today. 14 00:00:58,020 --> 00:01:01,940 Well, you know, my mom's making me come here. 15 00:01:02,580 --> 00:01:06,980 I honestly don't really know why I need to be here. My life is great. 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,900 She just doesn't like it. 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,080 She made me put this stupid trench coat on. 18 00:01:13,870 --> 00:01:20,390 So what I think my stepdaughter is failing to share right now, her 19 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:25,030 life has really gone off the rails recently. 20 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:31,930 She's living with these roommates who are involved in 21 00:01:31,930 --> 00:01:36,710 all sorts of degenerate behaviors. 22 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:39,170 I've decided to play video games with Lana. 23 00:01:39,490 --> 00:01:42,810 Our roommate that didn't pay rent for the last three months. 24 00:01:43,610 --> 00:01:47,170 convince you that it was a good idea to stay at home. They won't fire me. They 25 00:01:47,170 --> 00:01:47,848 need me. 26 00:01:47,850 --> 00:01:51,710 No, they don't. They can't hire anyone else. And you're literally not making 27 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:54,750 any money without that job. So you think I'm just spending all your money? 28 00:01:55,010 --> 00:01:56,150 I think you both are. 29 00:01:56,430 --> 00:01:57,970 I don't think this is going to work out between us. 30 00:01:58,250 --> 00:01:59,510 If you can give me, like, some advice. 31 00:02:00,050 --> 00:02:02,150 I think she just needs time. 32 00:02:02,510 --> 00:02:03,890 And you guys are really good together. 33 00:02:04,830 --> 00:02:05,830 Hi, baby. 34 00:02:06,030 --> 00:02:07,630 I'm sorry for being an asshole. 35 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:10,490 Talk to each other. We'll figure it out. 36 00:02:10,870 --> 00:02:12,850 Sarah is going to be at the party. 37 00:02:13,390 --> 00:02:14,069 Who's Sarah? 38 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:15,070 Your ex. 39 00:02:15,130 --> 00:02:16,230 We can't go anymore. 40 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:20,230 I knew you thought she was prettier than me. I feel like you knew she was coming. 41 00:02:20,510 --> 00:02:24,650 Oh, you can't be having fun with this. I can't believe you would put me in this 42 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:27,630 position. It's good to include your friends sometimes in these 43 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:30,250 conversations. I am not being dramatic. 44 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:32,110 What if she wasn't even going? 45 00:02:32,330 --> 00:02:36,410 I would never fuck any other woman that is not you. I feel like this is really 46 00:02:36,410 --> 00:02:40,120 productive. You guys should write like a self-help book for couples. Come on, 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,840 give her a load so we can go to those parties. 48 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:43,180 We're so healthy. 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:50,560 And the reason why I asked her to put this trench coat on is because she now 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,140 thinks that it's appropriate to walk around completely naked because she's 51 00:02:55,140 --> 00:03:00,840 been influenced by her nudist, I guess that's what you're calling yourself, her 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,840 nudist roommates. 53 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:06,800 That's the appropriate term. We're nudists. We respect our bodies. We love 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,800 the earth, you know? 55 00:03:09,100 --> 00:03:10,360 I don't see anything wrong with it. 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Your daughter does seem to make a valid point. 57 00:03:17,060 --> 00:03:20,780 Is there any particular reason that you disagree with her lifestyle? 58 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:27,900 I mean, she's a grown woman. She's just... A particular reason? I 59 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:32,440 mean, I can think of a lot of reasons why it's not appropriate for young 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,220 people to just be walking around. 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:42,020 fully exposed, just naked all the time and doing... What is 62 00:03:42,020 --> 00:03:44,460 wrong with that? In your mind. 63 00:03:45,020 --> 00:03:47,320 It's just not appropriate. 64 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:54,600 I mean, nudity is supposed to be a very special thing that's kept between two 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,640 people at most. 66 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 I think I see what's happening here. 67 00:04:00,420 --> 00:04:02,400 How do you feel about it? 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,580 Your own body, for example. You're the woman's body. 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:14,160 In general, are you... Yeah, my body is my body. There's not really much to say 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,779 about it. 71 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:17,920 I just happen to know you cover up quite a bit. You're in a long dress, that sort 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,820 of thing. Are you shameful of your body? 73 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:22,260 No. Can I interject? 74 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Yes, please. She's incredibly shameful of her body. The whole time I've been 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,420 growing up, my mom, there's no chance for... 76 00:04:30,140 --> 00:04:33,840 Look at the coat she put me in. It's literally as long as her dress. She's 77 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,860 like almost ashamed of being a woman. 78 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,320 It's insane. I just, I like my body, and I want to show it off, and I feel proud 79 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,840 of it, and she makes me feel bad for it. 80 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:46,100 Yeah, absolutely. 81 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,620 There's nothing wrong with wanting to show your body off. You're a young, 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,300 beautiful woman, and you're free-spirited, obviously. 83 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:57,300 I think your mom's just maybe a little old-fashioned. 84 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:00,060 Old fashioned? 85 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:07,280 A woman is meant to respect herself and part of that is not walking around with 86 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:11,480 everybody just able to see everything going what is supposed to be going on 87 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,380 under your clothes. 88 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,260 Clearly I can see that your relationship to your daughter is becoming fractured 89 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:21,340 over this nudist. 90 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:27,020 Yeah, I mean, she knows how I feel about it. I have been very clear that she 91 00:05:27,020 --> 00:05:32,960 continues to live her life in this very risky fashion that I'm going to have to 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,960 disown her and that's going to be it. 93 00:05:35,380 --> 00:05:37,640 I cannot condone this type of behavior. 94 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:45,660 You know, Annie, was it? 95 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,240 I think you might bond better with your daughter. 96 00:05:51,020 --> 00:05:53,920 If you just start to understand more of her liberal mindset. 97 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:56,340 See? 98 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:00,600 I don't really think it's about misunderstanding. I really think it's 99 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,580 about getting my daughter back on track with living respectfully and being able 100 00:06:06,580 --> 00:06:09,180 to be in society in a normal fashion. 101 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:11,580 I'm in my faction of society. 102 00:06:11,940 --> 00:06:16,380 We like being around each other. We all like the same things and we have the 103 00:06:16,380 --> 00:06:18,820 same views of life and our bodies and... 104 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,600 We're respectful about it. 105 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,740 Yeah, but that's not respectful of everyone else that you're coming across 106 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:29,620 who may not want to, you know, be seeing that much skin out and about. 107 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,580 Well, let me ask you this question. What are you hoping to get from the session 108 00:06:33,580 --> 00:06:34,580 today? 109 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,680 What am I hoping to get from the session? 110 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:44,820 Yes. For my daughter to understand that she is on a 111 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:47,560 very risky path and... 112 00:06:48,010 --> 00:06:52,610 needs to just understand that there's a right and wrong way to live your life, 113 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:57,070 and she is on the wrong path and walking a very, very thin line. 114 00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:01,850 What was your relationship with your daughter before all this nudist colony 115 00:07:01,850 --> 00:07:02,850 thing came about? 116 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:07,610 Growing up, that sort of thing. Were you close? Were you two really close? 117 00:07:08,050 --> 00:07:09,210 Yes, we were so close. 118 00:07:09,410 --> 00:07:12,470 I met her when she was young, and we've always... 119 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:17,060 shared everything and been close and have had no issues until she met this 120 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:18,620 group of nudists. 121 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:24,680 I mean, it's very normal for a young girl her age to start venturing out, 122 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,660 meeting new people, making new friends of all sorts of different. 123 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:30,400 Sure, but not those type of people. 124 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:32,360 All people to meet. 125 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:36,200 I only told her because we were so open and honest with each other and now I 126 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,660 feel like I can't even tell her anything. 127 00:07:38,380 --> 00:07:40,580 See, that's what we don't want to happen, right, Amy? 128 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:45,870 You know, you want to be on the same level as your dog. You want to make sure 129 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:47,350 you understand what's going on. 130 00:07:47,570 --> 00:07:53,510 Yeah, I'd love for our close connection to come back, but not at the sacrifice 131 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:58,290 of my values and being seen as permitting that type of behavior. 132 00:07:59,050 --> 00:08:00,970 I see. I see. 133 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:04,530 I'm going to suggest that we do a little exercise. 134 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:09,770 How's that sound? 135 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:18,480 Annie, I'm going to start... It's going to sound a little unorthodox, but I want 136 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640 you to bear with me, okay? Because I'll let you know ahead of time that my 137 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,960 success rate is 100%, okay? 138 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,480 And that being said, I'm going to need you to trust me, okay? 139 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:30,900 Annie, 140 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:32,940 I'm going to need you to disrobe. 141 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,820 What? Did you just tell my mom to get undressed? 142 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,559 Yes. 143 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Um... 144 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,620 Absolutely not. I'm sorry. Where are your qualifications? 145 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Actually, I've noticed I don't see any... It's not the reception area. 146 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:55,440 I think this is our sign to go. I don't know what kind of quack doctor you are, 147 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,580 but... Please, please, please, please, please, please. Give me a moment. 148 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,640 I guarantee you my results, they speak for themselves. 149 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,580 And like I said, I know it's unorthodox. I know it's... 150 00:09:08,939 --> 00:09:14,100 Not what you've probably seen with other therapists, perhaps, but that's why 151 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:15,100 you're here. 152 00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:20,140 Well, here for Reconnection, what are your success rates in exactly? 153 00:09:21,380 --> 00:09:25,100 Oh, my success rates are 100%. It reconciled my families. 154 00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:30,800 I've helped many, many families in the same exact situation that you're in. 155 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:32,220 Very similar. 156 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,040 You may feel like your problems are unique, but I assure you they're not. 157 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,060 I don't know how many daughters are running around in nudist communities. Do 158 00:09:41,060 --> 00:09:44,500 you think you're the only parents of these nudist colonies that take issue 159 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:45,500 with this? 160 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:47,660 I mean, if you think of it that way. 161 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:51,280 I would say that probably every parent that is in this nudist colony probably 162 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,460 has similar concerns. 163 00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:53,780 Don't you think, baby? 164 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:57,940 Well, maybe we should. Maybe a couple of random hippies and that sort of thing. 165 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:00,260 Other free-spirited thinkers. 166 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:02,240 But that's what we're trying to work on today. 167 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,600 Maybe your daughter can teach you to be a little bit more open-minded and free 168 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,600 -spirited. 169 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,460 Just make a point there. 170 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,240 No, please. If you just... I mean, it's your daughter. There's nothing that you 171 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,220 have that she doesn't. It's both women. 172 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,060 I think it would really, really help the situation. 173 00:10:21,420 --> 00:10:26,580 But, like, you were right here. You mentioned a camera filming us. Those are 174 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:30,220 just my own personal records to reflect on our sessions later on. 175 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:32,720 No one will ever see those. 176 00:10:33,220 --> 00:10:34,300 I assure you that. 177 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,300 And as far as myself, I'm a doctor. 178 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,180 I'm totally professional. 179 00:10:41,180 --> 00:10:43,820 I won't even pay it no mind. This is more about the exercise. 180 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,560 I don't know. I'm just very uncomfortable with this. 181 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,700 Well, I mean, that's why it's a therapist's office. This is a safe spot 182 00:10:56,700 --> 00:11:02,120 for you. This is a place where you can feel comfortable. 183 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,420 Mom, if you're saying this will help us. 184 00:11:05,070 --> 00:11:11,850 I mean, um, it's fucking weird, but... Yeah. You want to be close 185 00:11:11,850 --> 00:11:12,870 to your daughter again, right? 186 00:11:13,390 --> 00:11:18,390 Yeah, I don't, I mean... Like, how close are we talking? Well, I mean, we're 187 00:11:18,390 --> 00:11:21,490 going to get back to the basics, you know? We're going to get back to your 188 00:11:21,490 --> 00:11:22,490 motherly instincts. 189 00:11:23,310 --> 00:11:27,550 I mean, I can maybe loosen up a little bit. I don't know about disrobing, 190 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:30,790 but... We'll start at your comfort level. How about that? 191 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:32,130 I really... 192 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:37,080 I don't understand what this has to do with reconnecting with my daughter. 193 00:11:37,260 --> 00:11:41,800 Well, obviously your daughter is very comfortable with her body and being 194 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,800 nude. 195 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:45,380 I'm comfortable with my body. 196 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,300 I don't think I've ever seen my mom even take off a sweatshirt before. 197 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,820 Well, see, that's not appropriate. 198 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,260 You're doing well. You're doing well. Keep going. 199 00:11:58,700 --> 00:11:59,700 Annie, please. 200 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:02,970 More than this? I mean, I did my top buttons. 201 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:04,410 Well, yeah, you can. 202 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:07,030 You can do the same. 203 00:12:07,230 --> 00:12:08,209 Come on. 204 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:12,770 I won't look. I mean... Yeah, well, I don't... I mean, I don't need anyone 205 00:12:12,770 --> 00:12:15,210 looking. I'll tell you what. 206 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:21,590 I assure you, I'm not... I'll look at my notes so you can... Feel free to undo 207 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:24,410 the rest of your buttons. I'm going to make a few notes here. 208 00:12:29,089 --> 00:12:32,190 Okay, my buttons are undone. 209 00:12:35,610 --> 00:12:38,230 Okay, you can just take down your top, please. 210 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:46,370 I don't think that's necessary at all. Annie, if 211 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:50,490 we're going to progress with this session, you're going to have to trust 212 00:12:50,490 --> 00:12:51,490 me. 213 00:12:53,970 --> 00:12:56,850 I assure you. I mean, I... 214 00:12:57,770 --> 00:13:04,070 I can't remember a time when I was at this level of undress in front of anyone 215 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:07,270 but my husband, her father. 216 00:13:08,110 --> 00:13:10,150 Well, and that's part of the issue, isn't it? 217 00:13:11,610 --> 00:13:14,770 It hasn't been an issue for me, ever. 218 00:13:15,370 --> 00:13:16,450 Well, you're here, aren't you? 219 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:20,130 I've never seen anyone challenge my mom like this. 220 00:13:20,730 --> 00:13:24,710 I'm challenging you. I don't mean to challenge you. I'm just trying to get to 221 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:25,710 the root of the issue. 222 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:29,840 Well, the root of the issue is her running off with these nudists, so... 223 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,960 I'm already half undressed, so I can't be the issue right now. 224 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Again, 225 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,540 she raises another practical point. 226 00:13:38,260 --> 00:13:43,260 I sense the reluctance, and I understand to some degree, but, you know, if you're 227 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:46,720 not willing to trust me, I'm not too sure that I can help the two of you. 228 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:53,640 And if I can't help you, so Frank, I don't... 229 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,680 I don't imagine anyone else being able to help you either. 230 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:01,900 I just, I mean, where is this headed? You're asking me to take my top off 231 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:07,700 more. Well, where's the exercise headed? Well, it's meant to make the two of you 232 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:08,700 feel closer. 233 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:10,640 You'll take down the top. 234 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,020 We'll start there. 235 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,520 And then we'll do more from there. And small steps, small increments. I mean, 236 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,500 honey, is this going to make you feel closer to me if I take my top off right 237 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:29,260 now? I honestly couldn't tell you yes or no, because we've never... 238 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:34,160 You told me that he was, like, the best recommended therapist. 239 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,040 I mean, like... Well, I mean, I can't trust everything you see on the 240 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,040 internet, I guess. 241 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:43,260 I do want to feel closer to you, though. 242 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:44,700 I want to feel closer to you again. 243 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:46,400 Oh, there we go. That's the spirit. 244 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,500 Um... Don't need to clutch your pearls any longer, Annie. 245 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Um... 246 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Oh, this is really, really uncomfortable. 247 00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:07,100 Let's just try to get out of this. 248 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:14,440 Okay. All right, well. 249 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:16,600 Rose, I noticed you look a little uncomfortable. 250 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Well, yeah, you made my mom take her shirt off. 251 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,820 Any of the point of this exercise is to make you feel comfortable and hopefully 252 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:27,560 make me feel the freedom that your daughter enjoys. 253 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,900 See? I don't know if my daughter and I experience freedom in the same way. 254 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:37,040 Well, you don't know because you haven't tried any. 255 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,700 I am... Your daughter... I like it. 256 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,480 Yeah, exactly. Your daughter seems very comfortable. She's been doing it for a 257 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,800 little bit now. 258 00:15:45,290 --> 00:15:51,870 Yeah, I, you know, I'm sitting here with my top down, so I think that's enough 259 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:52,870 freedom for me. 260 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:56,930 Rose, if you wouldn't mind, so that way your mother might feel more comfortable, 261 00:15:57,150 --> 00:15:59,110 if you wouldn't mind the jacket. 262 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:04,150 Now you're asking my daughter to get undressed? 263 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:07,750 We had a whole fight on the way in here just to get her to put this on. 264 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:10,110 Well, yes. 265 00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:14,330 There's a key word being fight. You had a fight. 266 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,200 I don't want to go home. 267 00:16:19,140 --> 00:16:22,880 You're an adult. The reason being is the two of you are going to hold each other. 268 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:23,960 You're going to embrace each other. 269 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:25,780 In a simple hug. 270 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,540 In like nudist fashion? 271 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Yes. 272 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:38,660 It's not like a weird sexual way, but like in a bonding, in a very natural 273 00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:40,980 loving mother-daughter bonding way. 274 00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:43,260 I think that's part of the problem. 275 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,040 You're an adult. 276 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,460 I'm... Exactly. 277 00:16:54,460 --> 00:16:55,940 Go ahead, Rose. You can do it. 278 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,660 Can you pick your notes or whatever? 279 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:04,180 I'm more used to doing this in my community. 280 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:10,720 I don't want to make you feel like any less of a woman, so I'm doing this for 281 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,720 you. 282 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:13,700 It's very... 283 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:15,319 Thoughtful, sweetie. 284 00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:18,579 It's very thoughtful, Rose. 285 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,500 Well done. 286 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:23,339 I like the positive, can-do attitude. 287 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,880 Okay. 288 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,040 Now, Rose, if you wouldn't mind just holding your mom. 289 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,360 Just give her a hug. 290 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:54,150 There you go, Annie. There's no reason to look so uncomfortable. 291 00:17:55,730 --> 00:17:59,610 Totally natural, totally normal. This is mother-daughter bonding at its finest 292 00:17:59,610 --> 00:18:00,610 right here. 293 00:18:01,150 --> 00:18:05,510 It is nice to have a hug from you, sweetie, but... It's been a long time. 294 00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:06,930 Yeah. 295 00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:08,230 Yeah. 296 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:11,350 Wonderful. You two are doing great. 297 00:18:11,570 --> 00:18:12,850 Really, really wonderful. 298 00:18:14,209 --> 00:18:15,610 Tremendous progress today. 299 00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:17,090 Yep. Okay. 300 00:18:17,370 --> 00:18:18,370 All right. 301 00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:20,210 Yeah. 302 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:23,410 How long are we doing this for? 303 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:25,610 Oh, just a little bit longer. 304 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:27,050 Oh. Yeah. 305 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:28,350 Okay. 306 00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:32,610 Until you two suck me on so awkward, I guess. 307 00:18:33,090 --> 00:18:36,330 I don't know if we have enough time for that today. 308 00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:41,110 Oh, I'm sure you will be totally comfortable with each other very 309 00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:42,110 shortly. 310 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:46,460 Because, Rose, I would like you to, at this point, fondle your mother's 311 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:47,459 breasts. 312 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:49,600 Huh? Fondle your mother's breasts. 313 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Fondle? 314 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,300 Correct, yeah. Okay. 315 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:57,200 Again, I know where you're going with this. 316 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,340 I know my techniques are unorthodox. I've stated that. 317 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:06,800 You do keep using that word. Yeah, it's not what other therapists do. And that 318 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,700 is why my success rate is 100%. So, Rose, go ahead. 319 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,920 Tell me about how. 320 00:19:12,330 --> 00:19:13,330 I'm liberated. 321 00:19:13,490 --> 00:19:18,250 I'm not even certain that Rose would know how to fondle a breast. Whoa. Well, 322 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:19,650 there's two problems. 323 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:22,410 I thought you might say that, Annie. 324 00:19:22,670 --> 00:19:26,790 So, I'm just going to come right over here. Oh, my God. I'm going to give you 325 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:32,230 a little hand here. A professional hands-on technique that I like to use 326 00:19:32,230 --> 00:19:35,250 myself, if it's okay, if you don't mind. 327 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:38,630 If you start, just let me see. 328 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,080 Caressing? Mm-hmm. 329 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,580 That's not so bad, right, Annie? 330 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:43,699 Uh-huh. 331 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:46,280 I mean, what do you think your father's going to say about this? 332 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,920 Like, I'm sitting here topless in this man's office, and now he's touching me, 333 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,440 fondling me. Annie? 334 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:57,340 You brought me here. This is doctor-patient confidentiality. You see? 335 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,900 What happens in this room is just between the three of us. This is about 336 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:04,720 you two going back up. 337 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,260 mother-daughter relationship and that bond, you see? Yeah, I mean, I thought 338 00:20:08,260 --> 00:20:11,720 it was going to be about us two. I didn't know it was going to be so hands 339 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,000 -on with you. 340 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,600 Well, it's no extra charge, I assure you, and it's all taken care of by your 341 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,459 insurance provider. 342 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:20,760 Oh, how wonderful. 343 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,640 So there's no need to worry about that if that's what your concern was. 344 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,980 So where was I? 345 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,220 Now, Rose, if you start just gently massaging just like this. 346 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:34,530 All circular motions. 347 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:35,990 Go ahead. Don't be scared. Come on. 348 00:20:36,690 --> 00:20:37,690 Come on, Rose. 349 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:39,210 Don't be scared. 350 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:44,930 Man, you're looking right at me as you're doing that. Well, I mean, I'm 351 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:46,070 waiting for you to join in. 352 00:20:46,270 --> 00:20:47,270 Come on. Oh, my God. 353 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:51,270 I cannot believe this is actually... I can't touch my mom like this. 354 00:20:51,550 --> 00:20:52,109 Come here. 355 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:54,830 There you go. Just right there. See? 356 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:57,330 Uh-huh. 357 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:01,130 They're beautiful. Look at that. Look at your brothers. They're beautiful. 358 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,560 Large breasted woman. Oh my god. I still don't understand why we are touching or 359 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,580 talking about my breasts right now 360 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:24,300 It's 361 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:27,660 really gonna go further than this well, yeah, this is a roses benefit you see 362 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:32,280 this is gonna be rosary I want you to crush your mother's 363 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Oh my God. 364 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:46,680 I don't really know if this is what 365 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:52,620 Rose was interested in when she got involved in, you know, her nudist 366 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:57,600 community. I don't think she wanted to be touching her mother's breasts in a 367 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,960 therapist's office. 368 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,860 And if we're going to make any progress, right? 369 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:06,960 Because what we're going to do right now is we're going to need to lean forward. 370 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,720 You've got that one. And there you go. 371 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:12,120 And then I want you to... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 372 00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:15,800 Open him up. No, I can't. No, no, no. Just come on. Come on. 373 00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:19,880 This is really... Come on. Just give it a little suck. 374 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:21,039 Pushing it. 375 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,600 Come on. This is totally normal. This is what... Yes, there you go. 376 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,840 What school did you go to again? 377 00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:30,240 Where did you learn these techniques? 378 00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:34,870 Are you questioning my qualifications? 379 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:40,290 Yeah, well, my daughter's mouth is on my... I'm sure you're going to an Ivy 380 00:22:40,290 --> 00:22:41,490 College, okay? 381 00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:48,290 And I guarantee you results, okay? And again, 382 00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:52,830 if you're unhappy at the end of today's session, no charge. 383 00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:57,550 But I really believe that if you two just cooperate... 384 00:22:57,870 --> 00:23:00,990 And you just go through the exercises with me. I think at the end of our 45 385 00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:04,690 minutes, I think you'll both be very, very pleased. I think you'll feel much, 386 00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:06,990 much differently. I think you'll be a lot closer. 387 00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:11,270 Okay, go ahead. We are being pretty cooperative, all things considered. 388 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:12,750 Go ahead. 389 00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:20,290 I mean, you do understand this is, you know, 390 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:22,810 we never had a breastfeeding experience. 391 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:25,850 Well, I mean, no better time than the present then, right? 392 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,760 That makes you both about ready then. 393 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,520 There you go. 394 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:31,980 Oh my god. 395 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:33,380 There you go. 396 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:35,620 There you go. 397 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:41,700 Come on, it's okay. Go ahead, Rose. 398 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Go ahead. 399 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,360 There you go. You're doing great. 400 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,360 Alright. Okay. 401 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,440 It doesn't feel like I'm doing a great job. 402 00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:03,680 I mean, if he says you are, sweetie, I'm sure you're doing great. 403 00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:07,920 Yes. This is just the first step. Don't worry, ladies. 404 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,300 It'll be a lot easier. 405 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,100 Oh. Speaking of which, I might want to have you step up just one second and 406 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,100 remove the dress. 407 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:21,080 Rose isn't completely nude. She just doesn't seem right. 408 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,380 But she wants to keep her dress on. Yeah. Thank you. Well, you know... 409 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,220 Just because I want to be a nudist. 410 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:32,980 What? Rose, again, we're trying to teach your mom the joys and the freedoms of 411 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:36,100 being liberated like yourself, right? Is that what we're trying to accomplish 412 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,040 here? So that she has a better understanding of your lifestyle and your 413 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,040 choices? 414 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:47,680 Yes. I mean, I thought that was the purpose of our interview today. Unless 415 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,840 I misunderstood. 416 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:53,860 I can't just, like... 417 00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:59,530 Pull my skirt up a little bit or if you'd like and if you like that's fine, 418 00:24:59,610 --> 00:25:02,850 too You can just pull it up if you like or whatever's easiest for you. And it 419 00:25:02,850 --> 00:25:06,670 doesn't really We're just trying to share more with each other. You see, 420 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:07,770 okay. Yeah 421 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:26,620 Okay. We can continue where you were. 422 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,320 I'm just going to observe and make sure your technique, your form is good. Mm 423 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,000 -hmm. Mm-hmm. Good. 424 00:25:33,660 --> 00:25:34,660 Thanks. 425 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Good. 426 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:37,180 Are you sure? 427 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,819 I'm awesome. 428 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:41,360 I've never been more sure of anything in my life. 429 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,980 I'm so sorry, Mom. 430 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:44,259 Don't be sorry. 431 00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:45,260 Don't be sorry. 432 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Okay. 433 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:51,560 You're helping. You're helping your mom. You're helping her liberate herself. 434 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:53,560 All right, perfect. 435 00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,520 I'm going to help you with this real quick. 436 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800 I'm just going to have you lift up a little bit. Oh, my God. Is this 437 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,920 necessary? 438 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,020 You know what? I think it's absolutely necessary. 439 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,020 Oh, my God. My underwear. Okay. 440 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 There you go. There you go. Now we're all comfortable. 441 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,080 There you go. 442 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,500 There you go, Annie. 443 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,440 That's my underwear that you grabbed with my... I'll put it right here with 444 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,970 your... Who's there? There you go. Very good. 445 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:23,230 Oh, 446 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:25,530 young and dumb. Down there. 447 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:26,830 Yeah, wow. 448 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:31,550 Okay, well, this is great. 449 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:37,630 So I guess we've accomplished the goal and now that's it. We are on our way. 450 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:41,430 And that is the positive can-do mentality that Rose was showing earlier. 451 00:26:42,110 --> 00:26:47,030 And I appreciate that you're starting to feel it now too. So, Rose, I'm going to 452 00:26:47,030 --> 00:26:48,030 go back to the... 453 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,860 the suckling on the on the breast oh my god andy i want you to just close your 454 00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:59,800 eyes okay take some long deep breaths okay let's go watch make sure you're 455 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:06,800 doing it correctly all right very good and 456 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:12,540 we're gonna put our hands to the side just for a second oh my god 457 00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:22,440 Just keep your eyes closed, Annie. It's going to be okay. They're closed. 458 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,100 Oh, 459 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:28,200 my God. 460 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:30,380 Okay. 461 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Oh, my. 462 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:38,360 I'm not sure what's happening here. 463 00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:42,040 I'm just going to get you a little comfortable. Don't mind that. There we 464 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,680 go. Rose, you just continue. 465 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,100 Oh, my God. 466 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,260 I should have closed my eyes, it was better if my eyes were closed. 467 00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:02,500 Oh my God. 468 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:05,300 Oh. 469 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:09,080 Are you okay, sweetie? 470 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Are you okay, Rose? 471 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,340 I'm trying to keep my eyes closed too. Okay. 472 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:17,440 I'm okay. Oh my God. 473 00:28:17,950 --> 00:28:20,210 Is this absolutely necessary? 474 00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:22,230 Yes, this is absolutely necessary. 475 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:29,430 Is this what you're doing with your... No, this is the craziest thing that... 476 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:30,430 Oh, 477 00:28:31,870 --> 00:28:35,670 this is escalating quickly. 478 00:28:36,050 --> 00:28:37,050 Yes. 479 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:41,250 Nothing... Just close your eyes and let it happen, okay? 480 00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:47,450 My life in the nudist community is way simpler than this. Oh, wow. 481 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:52,190 Maybe when you go back to your community, you can show them some of 482 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:52,909 these techniques. 483 00:28:52,910 --> 00:28:53,910 Oh, my God. 484 00:28:58,290 --> 00:29:02,410 It would really be hard to do techniques that I saw in my mother. 485 00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:03,810 Oh, my God. 486 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:05,890 She has a point. 487 00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:32,910 Oh, fuck, I'm sorry, Mom. 488 00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:34,130 I'm sorry. 489 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:36,170 I can't believe I dragged you here. 490 00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:40,370 Oh, no need to apologize for any. Don't worry. 491 00:29:41,490 --> 00:29:43,250 I'm going to get her the therapy she needs. 492 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,200 You're doing a wonderful job so far. 493 00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:13,040 I'm going to have you scooch around over just a little bit. I'll sit right here. 494 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:14,900 All right. 495 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Now, ladies. 496 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,040 What are you doing? 497 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:20,800 For your next mother-daughter activity. 498 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,080 What? Ladies. 499 00:30:23,140 --> 00:30:26,600 Ladies, we cannot stop now, okay? We've gotten this far. 500 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760 It would be detrimental to this therapy, okay? 501 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,270 I mean, you already... We're both sitting here naked and now... Yes, well, 502 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:38,310 this is the whole point. You're going to learn mutual support of one another. 503 00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:41,970 So your next task, ladies... Come here. 504 00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:44,550 Rose, don't be scared. 505 00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:50,770 I want you to show your mother how to do it. 506 00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:53,730 Rose? 507 00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:56,110 What do you say? 508 00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:59,870 I mean, so far this therapy's going pretty good, right? 509 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Ladies, you have to admit. 510 00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:05,440 I mean, did you ever think you'd be this close to your daughter? I mean, you're 511 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,640 both sitting here naked, right? Close is a word for it. Yes. 512 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,540 Sweetie, have you done this before? 513 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Are you going to make me go to therapy if I tell you, honestly? 514 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,000 I mean, we're here already, so you might as well be honest. 515 00:31:20,580 --> 00:31:21,920 I've never done it like this before. 516 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,000 Well, I've never done this at all, so... Ever? 517 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:31,060 A mouth? 518 00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:32,940 That's not what this is for. 519 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:39,020 Well, Rose, I think maybe in this particular situation, maybe you should 520 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:41,980 start off and show your mom what it's all about then. I've seen where you have 521 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:42,980 a little experience. 522 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:51,940 If we stop now, we're not... It would be detrimental. I really feel it. I 523 00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:53,820 feel like it would be a big mistake. 524 00:31:57,290 --> 00:32:02,430 But the good news is we've gotten this far and I think if we continue You go 525 00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:05,670 through with this. I think it's gonna make a major difference. It's gonna be a 526 00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:11,110 major breakthrough today It might just cure all your issues 527 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:16,390 It'd be nice to have all our issues cured Well, 528 00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:19,110 what do you think? 529 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:21,670 It's up to you sweetie Rose? 530 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:25,510 Okay. Okay. We need to be brave. Go ahead 531 00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:29,030 He's stuck, he's stuck. 532 00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:39,150 There you go, watch your dog. 533 00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:43,450 That's it. 534 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,140 You want me to keep going? 535 00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:00,560 Yes, yes, please continue. 536 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:02,700 There you go. 537 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Do 538 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:21,940 you 539 00:33:21,940 --> 00:33:26,180 want me to try and feel bad that you're doing all that yourself? 540 00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:28,930 Right there. 541 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:32,330 I think I need your elbow. 542 00:33:32,650 --> 00:33:33,650 Okay. 543 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:40,230 Like that? 544 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:42,970 No, just like that. It's perfect. 545 00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:46,310 There you go. Nice and slow, ladies. 546 00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:55,690 You're doing it. 547 00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:57,570 Yes, she is. 548 00:34:01,390 --> 00:34:03,450 I don't really understand it, but okay. 549 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:09,389 Oh, you are doing wonderful, ladies. 550 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:14,070 Really making strides right now. 551 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,780 You're doing a good job. 552 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,679 Hey, sweetie. 553 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,500 Oh, that's good, Rose. 554 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,340 Give your mother that encouragement that she needs. 555 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,120 I'm great. 556 00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:59,740 Okay. 557 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:10,320 There you go. I want you to... There you go. Now, Rose, you get my towel. 558 00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:12,020 There you go. 559 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:14,980 That's it, ladies. 560 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 There you go. 561 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,520 That's it. 562 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:23,960 There you go, Rose. 563 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:25,520 Don't forget the bonus, Rose. 564 00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:27,060 There you go. 565 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,680 There you go. 566 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,520 I'm gonna share your daughter. 567 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:51,980 How much longer do we have to do this? Oh, we got about another 20 minutes or 568 00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:53,200 so of our session, so. 569 00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:56,200 Yeah, don't worry. 20 minutes? 570 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,060 If we go over, no extra charge, ladies, don't worry. 571 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,320 Don't have to worry about that. 572 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,560 That's it. 573 00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:09,720 Take a nice... You're doing great, sweetie. 574 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:32,970 That's it, mom. 575 00:36:55,310 --> 00:37:00,270 I mean, this is better than being all pulled up in your dress all day. 576 00:37:01,290 --> 00:37:04,570 I'm not so sure I'm convinced of that. 577 00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:05,970 Oh, well. 578 00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:09,430 What do you think, Rose? Maybe we should convince your mother a little bit more? 579 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:11,570 Yeah, well, okay. 580 00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:14,270 Why don't you just sit back and get comfortable? 581 00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:16,650 Why don't you sit right there? 582 00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:19,950 Take a seat. Lay back. 583 00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:28,060 I want you to, uh... There you go. 584 00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:30,540 What are you doing? 585 00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:32,260 Yeah, what, now? 586 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,900 Oh, this is, uh... And you come forward a little bit and get nice and 587 00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:40,120 comfortable. Hey, lie on your back. 588 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:43,260 Now, Rose, you're going to get real close to your mother, okay? 589 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,920 There you go. 590 00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:52,620 Ready for what? 591 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:59,400 To continue building this bond, this closeness, this supportive bond that you 592 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,660 two have been working on this whole session. I mean, I'm feeling pretty 593 00:38:02,660 --> 00:38:06,060 close. You're going to feel a lot closer by the time Rose is done. Come here, 594 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Rose. 595 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:08,260 Mom, 596 00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,420 what's he doing? 597 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:13,180 Put your tongue out. I'm not quite sure, to be honest. 598 00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:15,740 Oh, my God. 599 00:38:28,830 --> 00:38:29,830 Okay. 600 00:38:30,510 --> 00:38:31,510 Um. 601 00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:39,570 A lot of activities going on with our mouths today that I 602 00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,170 was not expecting. 603 00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:44,350 I thought we were just going to talk. Yeah. 604 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:48,570 Like I said, ladies. 605 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:50,850 Oh, my God. 606 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:57,870 Are you going to have sex with my daughter? 607 00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:02,100 I don't want you to think of it, ladies, as having sex. I want you to think of it 608 00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,480 more as building that bridge. We're getting closer to one another, okay? 609 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:08,640 And I don't think we can get there without this. 610 00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:11,140 So... Oh, my God. 611 00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:15,020 If you don't mind, just let me work my magic. 612 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,180 Oh, there you go. There you go. 613 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,120 I'm sure your mother would just like to really feel liberated. 614 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,880 Oh, my God. 615 00:39:30,529 --> 00:39:34,070 I'm just not quite sure about all of this. Okay. 616 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:38,590 It's okay, ladies. You're doing great. 617 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:41,310 You really are. I'm really proud of both of you. 618 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:43,390 Thanks. 619 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,380 Is this what you like to do, Rose? 620 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,000 No, this is what you brought me here. 621 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,280 This was your idea, Mom. 622 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,660 I know, but I didn't know this was going to be going on here. 623 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,400 You didn't read the reviews? 624 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,200 No one said anything about this, just that there was a high success rate. 625 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,980 Ladies, that's part of that whole doctor-patient confidentiality agreement 626 00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:39,940 I spoke about earlier. 627 00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:43,280 No one needs to know what happens here, okay? 628 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,200 You didn't say we were going to pass. 629 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:51,210 You keep using that word like it's something dirty 630 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:52,830 Are 631 00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:59,950 you 632 00:40:59,950 --> 00:41:00,950 okay? 633 00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:11,850 I don't even know what's happening anymore to be honest 634 00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:15,120 confusing. Yeah. 635 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160 I feel bad just watching, Mom. 636 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:27,180 Oh, you know, I kind of feel bad a little bit, too. You know, that being 637 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:28,880 said, when you stand up, Rose. 638 00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:30,540 There you go. 639 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,820 Mom, you come right to me. 640 00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:37,140 Rose, you come over here. 641 00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:40,380 Oh, 642 00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:42,460 my God. 643 00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:44,850 Sit right on your mother's face now. 644 00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:47,169 There you go. 645 00:41:47,170 --> 00:41:50,630 You want me to sit on my mother's face? Yes, I want you to return the favor. 646 00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:52,630 There you go, sweetie. 647 00:41:58,490 --> 00:42:02,990 I mean, I most certainly have never done this. 648 00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:07,170 And I've never had sex with anyone but your father. 649 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:11,750 I'm not quite sure I even know what to do here, Rose. 650 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:21,610 Oh my God, I'm watching the therapist penetrate my mom. 651 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:29,630 Hi. 652 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:32,890 Is this okay, Rose? 653 00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:34,810 This is okay. 654 00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:36,430 Are you okay? 655 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,860 I feel like this is more deviant than anything I've ever done in my nudist 656 00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:03,860 community. Really? 657 00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:06,840 Oh my God. That's great. 658 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,160 That's great news. 659 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,840 Is it? I brought her here to get better, not worse. 660 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,140 She thought there was a problem with me. 661 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,040 Well, now you see there's no problem at all, right, Ann? 662 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,760 I don't know about that. Now look where we are. Look what we're doing. 663 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:27,300 Leaps and bounds. 664 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,220 Oh, fuck. 665 00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:34,940 Oh, 666 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,760 yeah. 667 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,240 Oh, fuck. 668 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:49,280 All right. 669 00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:51,240 You're doing great, ladies. 670 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,720 This is all about sharing today. 671 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,800 Why don't you come over here? 672 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,020 All right, now. 673 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,660 Turn now. 674 00:44:05,799 --> 00:44:07,860 You know, we didn't have a problem with sharing. 675 00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:13,620 Yeah. Well, it's more of moral support, I understand. 676 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,780 But you're morally supporting your mom, right? 677 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:20,380 Yeah, there you go. 678 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,800 What do you want me to do? 679 00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:27,020 Go ahead. 680 00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:30,580 A lick? 681 00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:31,860 On you? 682 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,860 Oh my god. 683 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,560 Oh, you're doing it? 684 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,920 I don't know at this point. I don't really know what else to do. 685 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,600 I just kind of want this session to be over, honestly. 686 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,220 It's okay. 687 00:44:58,990 --> 00:45:03,110 I mean, do you enjoy doing this with your other friends, at least? The ones 688 00:45:03,110 --> 00:45:05,170 that I want to. Yeah, I am. 689 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:12,010 I would never do this with anyone I don't want to. 690 00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:16,470 Nudism is about respecting each other. 691 00:45:17,090 --> 00:45:22,290 I promise we'll never come back here again, sweetie. 692 00:45:22,770 --> 00:45:24,690 We'll just finish this session and... 693 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680 Would you do me a favor? Would you be so kind? Mm-hmm. 694 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,080 Thank you. 695 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,580 You know, we'll just... If you guys are connected, then that will be it. 696 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,880 Mm-hmm. 697 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:44,740 Oh, that's it. 698 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,160 And you'll trust that my lifestyle is fine. 699 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,640 Oh. 700 00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:53,740 I mean, I think I'll just... 701 00:45:54,030 --> 00:45:56,770 Trust you to make what decisions you have to do for yourself. 702 00:45:57,250 --> 00:45:59,290 I don't really know what else to do at this point. 703 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:06,390 I can deal with that. 704 00:46:13,170 --> 00:46:17,830 Oh my god, yeah. 705 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:22,950 He's certainly enjoying himself at least. 706 00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:41,330 You've like barely want to go home with me and the first time we go out on the 707 00:46:41,330 --> 00:46:48,090 house in years you bring me to a purpose I was just trying to do the best for us 708 00:46:48,090 --> 00:46:52,990 and I didn't know what else to do. I was so afraid to lose you 709 00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:59,850 You were never gonna lose me, 710 00:46:59,890 --> 00:47:02,170 huh? Well, I feel like I was, sweetie 711 00:47:05,710 --> 00:47:06,950 At least we're talking now. 712 00:47:17,710 --> 00:47:20,210 I've always just wanted to be open about my life with you. 713 00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:24,790 I promise I'll listen now. I promise. 714 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:42,280 Okay, I mean, how much longer does she have to do this for, really? 715 00:47:42,740 --> 00:47:47,600 Oh, well, you know, that's a good point. Hey, Mom, your turn now. 716 00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:50,860 Oh, that's not quite what I meant. Yeah, sure, no, no, it's okay. 717 00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,880 You're anxious, and I understand that. I appreciate your enthusiasm. 718 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,720 Okay, you hop right on, Mom. 719 00:47:56,580 --> 00:47:57,580 Hop on? 720 00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:58,840 There you go, there you go. 721 00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:01,420 Oh, my God. 722 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,260 Come here. I want you to get a little something, a little something. 723 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,480 Oh, my God. 724 00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:07,140 Here you go. 725 00:48:10,770 --> 00:48:12,890 Just move up and down like she was. 726 00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:17,270 Oh my God. 727 00:48:42,860 --> 00:48:43,860 Oh my God. 728 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,340 I've certainly never experienced this before. 729 00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:00,340 I don't think I've ever experienced this before either. 730 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,840 Look at us experiencing new things together, sweetie. 731 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,980 That is what you wanted. 732 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:13,060 I don't quite think it would be like this. 733 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:20,220 Oh my god. 734 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,280 I just feel interesting. 735 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,780 Interesting? Yeah. 736 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,220 I've never felt like this before. 737 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,680 Is that a good thing? 738 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,080 I don't know. Probably not considering what we're doing. 739 00:49:57,380 --> 00:50:01,440 But it's not supposed to be a bad thing. I know. I'm very confused. 740 00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:22,920 He does seem to know what he's doing with this process, or whatever he calls 741 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,920 it. 742 00:50:28,780 --> 00:50:31,620 He has his methods down, that's for sure. 743 00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:32,820 Yeah. 744 00:50:33,580 --> 00:50:36,180 Oh my god. 745 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,300 I don't think I've ever seen anyone get fucked like this before. 746 00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:53,750 Especially not your mom. 747 00:50:54,190 --> 00:50:55,190 I know. 748 00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:58,250 It's probably so confusing for you too. 749 00:51:03,830 --> 00:51:07,190 They're related to the mom, like the nudist moms, you know? 750 00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:08,410 It's fine. 751 00:51:08,530 --> 00:51:11,070 It's just, it's just, it's you. 752 00:51:11,350 --> 00:51:12,350 I know. 753 00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:14,230 She feels very different. 754 00:51:18,430 --> 00:51:19,810 Oh, fuck yeah. 755 00:51:39,759 --> 00:51:42,760 How do I even do this exercise with my mom? 756 00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,420 Are you getting anxious? 757 00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:48,140 No. 758 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,180 I'm not anxious. 759 00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:54,580 It's okay. You don't have to be shameful. I understand. 760 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:56,540 I'm at Rosewood. On your side. 761 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,520 On my side? 762 00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,680 Mm-hmm. 763 00:52:13,450 --> 00:52:14,450 You want you to be comfortable. 764 00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:24,070 Fuck, 765 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:32,850 it really does feel interesting. 766 00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:34,690 Yeah, you too. 767 00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:35,910 It's not just me. 768 00:52:36,770 --> 00:52:38,790 It makes me feel a little better. 769 00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:53,430 Great job, sweetie. 770 00:52:53,830 --> 00:52:54,850 You're doing wonderful. 771 00:52:55,050 --> 00:52:56,050 No. 772 00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:58,190 Thanks, Mom. 773 00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:24,189 be closer together. 774 00:53:24,190 --> 00:53:29,930 We are closer together now, that is for sure. 775 00:53:31,850 --> 00:53:38,710 I think we should 776 00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:43,390 probably not tell your dad about this session. 777 00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:44,650 Definitely not. 778 00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:49,470 I always tell him everything, but I don't think this. 779 00:53:51,470 --> 00:53:52,890 No, there's no way. 780 00:53:57,510 --> 00:54:01,110 That would be so mad if we both did this. 781 00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,890 Yeah. I don't think you'd be very happy. 782 00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:08,750 I know that. 783 00:54:10,210 --> 00:54:14,150 It feels really different. 784 00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:16,570 Oh, my God, yeah. 785 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:18,270 Oh, my God. 786 00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:42,260 Is this okay? Yeah. 787 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,880 It kind of feels good, if I'm honest. 788 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,160 Oh my god, I don't think I've ever used it and it feels good. 789 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,260 Maybe we did come a bit far today. 790 00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:06,260 Mom, 791 00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:09,740 why is he sucking on my toes? 792 00:55:10,650 --> 00:55:12,350 It must be part of the process. 793 00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:15,170 Yeah, it's part of the process. I don't really know. 794 00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:22,050 Fucking tickles. Does it? Yeah. 795 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:24,130 That makes sense. 796 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,160 Yeah, the session has to be close to over. I mean, me and my mom are clearly 797 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,920 closer than we've ever been. Yeah. 798 00:55:47,620 --> 00:55:49,280 In lots of ways. 799 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,540 I'm lying in a lap. 800 00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:00,140 And that being said, why don't you, I just want you to kneel down right here. 801 00:56:00,740 --> 00:56:01,820 Okay. There you go. 802 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,000 Is this the last exercise? 803 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,479 It is. 804 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,720 It has to be. 805 00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:35,240 You and your mom are going to share something very special, okay? 806 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,740 I mean, what more could we possibly share? 807 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,940 I'm sure you're just... Do you know what he's talking about? I thought this was 808 00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:47,720 already the most special thing we could share. 809 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,340 I don't know what else there would be for us to learn. 810 00:56:55,620 --> 00:56:56,620 I know. 811 00:56:58,190 --> 00:57:01,550 I mean, I get it now. I'm gonna, like you said, support your decisions. 812 00:57:01,950 --> 00:57:02,950 You're an adult. 813 00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:09,770 You hear that, doctor? We, you know. We're on the same page. I think we've 814 00:57:09,770 --> 00:57:11,770 met our goals for the day. It's actual. 815 00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:13,730 Yeah. 816 00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:20,490 I think so. 817 00:57:22,210 --> 00:57:24,030 I've never had my mom support like this. 818 00:57:24,310 --> 00:57:25,310 Yeah. 819 00:57:41,230 --> 00:57:42,290 He has to make us wait for it. 820 00:57:44,290 --> 00:57:45,490 I think we get it. 821 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,160 I want you to share it with Ross. 822 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:17,100 Come on, Ross. 823 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,760 Come on, it's very important. 824 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,520 There you go. 825 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,040 That's it. 826 00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:36,660 Wonderful job, ladies. 827 00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:37,700 Congratulations. 828 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,120 How does that feel? 829 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,080 Do you feel like you've made a breakthrough today? 830 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,960 Do you feel closer? Do you feel like you understand where your daughter's coming 831 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,960 from now? 832 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,000 Yeah, I think I definitely gained a lot of understanding today. 833 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,240 It's liberating, right? Being naked, being nude. 834 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,920 Yeah. 835 00:58:59,020 --> 00:59:01,800 Excellent. Excellent. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that. 836 00:59:02,279 --> 00:59:05,420 That being said, ladies, our session has come to an end, unfortunately. 837 00:59:05,740 --> 00:59:09,420 Okay. I'll get you something to clean up with, and be sure to see the 838 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:11,940 receptionist on the way out and make an appointment for next week. Okay. 839 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,160 Don't think of me doing that, but thank you so much. 840 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,880 Suit yourself, ladies.